It seems incredible to me that I should have to point out the evil of keeping a war going that has lasted longer than WWI and WWII combined.
On Oct 17, 2009, my friend wrote to me:
The Real Problem is that conservative republicans got us neck-deep in Afghanistan and then conveniently hid it behind the Iraq mess. Then left both disasters for Obama to try to clean up.
Yeah, the old "if only the leaders I like were in charge, things would be great" argument.
The fact is that liberals love government more than they hate war, and your reaction proves that, ... sad to say.
Obama has the power to stop the carnage now - withdrawing is the only compassionate thing to do.
The same argument is always used to keep wars going indefinitely; "we can't stop now, there would be chaos and death". You don't see the irony of that? We'd still be in Vietnam today if everyone followed that line of irrational thinking.
Can Obama do anything wrong in your eyes?
Sometimes I think that the best thing America can do is quick, complete withdrawl from the whole region. Let them all kill each other and we'll deal with whoever is left standing after the carnage. But then, I'm too compassionate to advocate that. Damn it.
Keeping a war going because of your "compassion"? That's Orwellian double-speak to the max.
But if we continue what we've been doing the last 10 years, is that better? No, I'd say.
Obama is ramping things up and spilling the war over into Pakistan. And you still refuse to admit that Obama is a war monger.
He is beholden to the corporate entities and politicians who got him elected, and most of them want war to continue. It's good for business and good for the politicians.
Liberals love a war when it's started by a liberal, conservatives love a war that's started by a conservative.
And around and around it goes. When the killing will stop, nobody knows. - All in the name of "peace" and "compassion".
Perhaps, read some history about wars, and the popular arguments of the time - they are no different now than they were a hundred years ago when the US invaded the Philippines to "protect the locals". And then the slaughter began.
But, pick a war, any war. I just randomly picked the war in the Philippines because I knew it was about a hundred years ago.
Read what Mark Twain wrote about war back then.
In my eyes, you either are adamantly and always against war, or you are forever going to be making excuses for double-talk; "war is peace, ignorance is strength, slavery is freedom".
Note that in all modern history NO invading force has ever done any good in Afghanistan nor has any foreign power ever subdued- permanently- any bit of the violence, nor has anyone ever succeeded with any plans for whatever future they had in mind in this country.
I don't see how that is relevant to the argument that war can stop NOW, no excuses. There is no good way to stop a war, especially not by extending the violence like Obama is doing.
I think at least Obama is trying to change the way Americans think about the Middle East. That has to be the first step. I wish things would move faster but remember he's fighting against a lot of very ingrained and inbred thinking. He can't change the world right this minute any more than you or I can?
Baloney. He can stop it. He loves his political career more than he hates innocent bloodshed.
Smile, man. We can agree, disagree, or agree to disagree. And that's a good thing!
That is not right. The truth is the truth, regardless of who agrees. And war is wrong. You wanna dig up the old Catholic argument about a "just war"?
These are innocent lives that are being destroyed by your tax dollars, and you treat it like a coffee-table discussion.
Stand up for what is right, not for which side of the left / right debate you are on.
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